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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218582590" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218582590">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="3132">@WG-triage</span> those who are around, (delayed) meeting <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218582723" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218582723">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry about the delays, got stuck with some work but free now <span aria-label="grinning" class="emoji emoji-1f600" role="img" title="grinning">:grinning:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583001" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583001">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>first of all, as usual thank you for all your efforts in triaging and helping. still trying to work on getting the number of pull requests down and most of them moving faster than they are, but most are stuck on people trying to find the bandwidth so there isn't much we can do about it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583161">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>now given it is december, a.k.a. holiday season, we normally take a break from triaging during the holiday break since most people will be away and i'm assuming you folks need a break as well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583315">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me is planning to take over the PR queue while other people are on break <a href="/user_uploads/4715/THAO6my828ncwHwhwMf5WIOz/image.png">image.png</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583365" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583365">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>so  we will take a break from 21st December to 3rd January (2 weeks)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583519" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583519">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>you don't need to triage during those 2 weeks even though we have a release scheduled for 31.12 <span aria-label="upside down" class="emoji emoji-1f643" role="img" title="upside down">:upside_down:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583590" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583590">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can resume triage on 04.01</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583678">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>(meanwhile i just got a calendar reminder for this meeting, looks like i still need to fix the calendar ;P )</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583802" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583802">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>also if you need a longer break during the holiday break, that's not a issue, you can skip triaging the weeks before or after we take a break</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583875" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583875">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>and yes joshua you are free to take over the pr queue <span aria-label="stuck out tongue" class="emoji emoji-1f61b" role="img" title="stuck out tongue">:stuck_out_tongue:</span> just don't ping anyone that should be fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218583998" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218583998">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>moving on -</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218584059" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218584059">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>we don't usually ping members if their prs are waiting on them to make changes, the problem i see here is the "definition of a member"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218584160" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218584160">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>most of you look at the "member" badge github adds to the user's name on the right when they open a pr / comment, however it isn't accurate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218584262" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218584262">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>referring to: <a href="/user_uploads/4715/-diYEkF2NOfYhY7zqOqU0AV0/image.png">image.png</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218584409" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218584409">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>i would say we could be "stricter" by hovering over the user and seeing if th ey belong to any of the main rust teams (such as t-libs, t-compiler, t-lang, etc) and not pinging them, but if they belong only to a working group, then it is fine to ping them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218584662" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218584662">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>unfortunately, i can't find an example right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218584698" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218584698">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it is fine if you ping anyone who belongs only to a working group or a sub-team and not the main team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218584760" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218584760">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>i think that is it from my side, anyone has anything to add?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218584908" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joel Palmer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218584908">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's good to know. Thanks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218584959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Lew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218584959">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>nothing from my side.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218585009" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Alex Macleod <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218585009">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>Same here, nothing to add</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218585049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218585049">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah we know that members often are working on multiple prs and also need time to review pull requests, and often the pull requests they work on are complex enough that it requires a longer time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218585182" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218585182">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>speaking of which, I <em>finally</em> got around to <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/76467">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/76467</a> after like 3 months <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218585231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218585231">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>that should be it for today, thanks for attending and have a safe and happy holiday season <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218585261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218585261">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>happy holidays everyone :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218585349" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218585349">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>next meeting should be on <time datetime="2021-01-06T16:00:00Z">2021-01-06T17:00:00+01:00</time>, as usual if you have anything to add before that, you can add it to the agenda doc or make  a thread here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218585443" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218585443">(Dec 02 2020 at 16:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks everyone <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218641588" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Noah Lev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218641588">(Dec 03 2020 at 00:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sorry I missed the meeting today! I'll read through the chat history.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting%202020-12-02/near/218940081" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242269-t-release/triage/topic/meeting.202020-12-02.html#218940081">(Dec 05 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="3132">@WG-triage</span> just an update:<br>
yest at the t-release meeting we decided to have a longer break this year. <br>
So instead of the holiday break lasting till 03.01 as we decided on Wednesday, it will now be till 10.01 </p>
<p>Also January's meeting will be moved to 13.01.2021 instead of 6th.</p>



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